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dcawrey
dcawrey
2/19/2017 2:17:57 PM
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Re: Consumer
@mhhf1ve Those are indeed pretty bad attacks to experience. 

One thing the phone carriers have done is set up PIN numbers for accounts, and ask that any changes be done in-store. I think those kind of things are helping, but you are right if you work in fintech you have to be really careful. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/19/2017 1:25:24 AM
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Re: Consumer
Losing a phone is bad, but it's even worse when you lose access to your phone *account* -- I have a couple friends who work with Bitcoin startups and they've been the targets of social engineering attacks where the bad guys convince a phone carrier to redirect access to a phone account to the bad guy..... two factor authentication doesn't work so well if you've lost control of the phone number that supposedly provides additional security.

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afwriter
afwriter
2/19/2017 1:05:53 AM
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Re: What's the status of differential privacy?
Even if it was breakable, it would at least been one more wall that data thieves would have to climb. Maybe that is the inevitable end game for privacy and safety. You don't make it impenetrable, you just make it too much of a pain to penetrate.

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afwriter
afwriter
2/19/2017 1:01:35 AM
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Re: Consumer
To add to this sentiment I would say that losing your wallet is a pain, losing your phone is a nightmare.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/18/2017 10:09:31 PM
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Re: Ford rep once said Ford knows when "everyone breaks the law"
The Dieselgate scandal seems to indicate to me that European automakers will bend the rules as long as they think they can get away with it. Data privacy laws in the US aren't very strict for automakers, so I'd expect no automaker to make their own policy unnecessarily more strict voluntarily.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/18/2017 7:01:19 PM
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Re: Consumer
@Joe actually, there is a bigger cost altogether. In addition to the financial cost, which your insurance will pass on to you one way or another, there's the anxiety one can feel with constant checking. That's one of the arguments that Dr. H Gilbert Welch make in his book, Less Medicine More Health: 7 Assumptions that Drive Too Much Medial Cost. Though it's not measured, there is a real emotional cost to anxiety and physical pain from exploratory procedures that introduce their own element of risk without offering much real help for a person's wellbeing

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/18/2017 2:32:50 PM
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Re: Consumer
@dcawrey: Meanwhile, the medical community is doing its darnedest to sell us on the benefits of ehealth solutions -- and, to be fair, those benefits are extremely compelling and value-adding in many cases.

And yet, the loss of our privacy is the bigger price we pay (you know...after the co-pay).

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
2/18/2017 2:31:05 PM
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Re: Ford rep once said Ford knows when "everyone breaks the law"
@mhh: Since performance and speed are selling points for these makers, I wonder if the super high-end Italian brands are any better.

In any case, your best bet is probably to look to the European automakers in general becasue of the privacy laws there -- but, then again, that can only have so much of an impact on US operations.

So, actually, your best bet is to drive an older car.  ;)

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/17/2017 3:51:42 PM
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What's the status of differential privacy?
Apple is supposedly working on a differential privacy scheme that anonymizes personal data at every step by introducing random noise into the data. So even if all the data that Apple collects is somehow leaked, no one (including Apple) could use that data to identify individuals. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_privacy

I'm skeptical of how well this really works in practice, given the vast amount of data that could be correlated with other data troves -- and then analyzed to "weed out" the artificial noise. Perhaps there's some unbreakable math that prevents any complete privacy leaks (but then I have to wonder how valuable the collected information is at all...).

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/17/2017 3:45:16 PM
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Ford rep once said Ford knows when "everyone breaks the law"
A few years back, I remember a Ford rep saying that the automaker knows when everyone is speeding in their cars (and their exact location) due to the GPS sensors in their vehicles. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1

Automakers have since tried to walk back from that level of creepiness, but the self-imposed data privacy agreements that automakers are setting up seem to be crafted to protect the automakers, not necessarily drivers. Is there any automaker with a better data privacy policy? 

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