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Michelle G
Michelle G
3/16/2017 4:12:14 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
@mhh I think you may be right about that. We may be better off with more limitations in the name of security.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/25/2017 7:19:42 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
< I think Apple's approach to limit the things users can do with their hardware might be the optimal one -- until someone figures out a better way to control malware.>

@mhhf1ve You believe that allowing full control to Apple really works to keep malware under control? That's not so much consolation for people using nonApple devices, though.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/25/2017 7:17:25 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
mPart of the appeal of proprietary solutions is some amount of convenience. For example, Apple and Google and Microsoft's ecosystems for apps give users some assurance that accessories and updates and third party developers will be around to make these Big3 ecosystems worth the lock-in>

@mhhf1ve well, yes, but that is still not a completely universal measure. For some, the convenience and assurance may outweigh their hesitations about being locked into something propietary. But for others, being locked in is so unappealing that they willingly forego that. That's what I got from the people at Sourceknowledge that I interviewed for an article a few weeks ago.

The CRO said he's "not a big fan of the walled garden approach." He doesn't buy that it's possible to "be the measurer and optimizer all at oncce." He also said in their view, vendors like Facebook and Google should "not force us to use their system and their data and ad delivery system exclusively." 

  

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dcawrey
dcawrey
2/16/2017 6:21:02 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
@Ariella I just hope at the firmware and OS level there are some serious precautions taken care of. 

Everyone thought it would be cool for there to be an open source smartphone OS in the form of Android. Unfortunately that has led to way more fragmentation than I think was initially expected. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/15/2017 4:40:43 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
> "the walled approach brings other limitations and integrations..."

Certainly, but I think for a nascent IoT ecosystem, maybe building in limitations and security would be smart? I think Apple's approach to limit the things users can do with their hardware might be the optimal one -- until someone figures out a better way to control malware.... 

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maryam@impact
maryam@impact
2/15/2017 1:03:52 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
Its a very complex issue because the walled approach brings other limitations and integrations. Is the solution to limit ourselves or to build better security? I don't think that the security has caught up with our technology creativity but at the same time should we harness our potential?

No easy answers especially with the industrial ramifications.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/13/2017 5:17:11 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
> "what of the people who resent being locked into a propietary ecosystem?"

Part of the appeal of proprietary solutions is some amount of convenience. For example, Apple and Google and Microsoft's ecosystems for apps give users some assurance that accessories and updates and third party developers will be around to make these Big3 ecosystems worth the lock-in.

For those who have some visceral hatred of proprietary ecosystems.. they're trading the convenience for having to cobble together a variety of open solutions that may or may not work well together. There may be some "security by obscurity" involved, but there may also simply be wide open security holes that haven't been patched because there are fewer economic incentives for people to plug them.

Unless you have the resources to really build your own ecosystem (or your requirements are that limited that you can), there's a bit of a contradiction to have both "freedom AND security" when it comes to software.... 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/13/2017 10:44:33 AM
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Re: Great indepth piece
@mhhf1ve but what of the people who resent being locked into a propietary ecosystem? I spoke to some people from a marketing agency recently who avoid using Facebook's platform altogether because they don't want to be constricted by a walled garden appraoch. 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/10/2017 7:44:24 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
I think users are going to need to accept more and more limitations on the things they can do with their devices for the sake of security. Just as smartphones have started the "walled garden" approach to installing apps, more and more devices will need to have built-in trust mechanisms for preventing malware and only accepting trusted instructions.

 

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2017 4:10:21 PM
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Re: Great indepth piece
@dcawrey that makes sense, actually. The smartphone really enabled mobile to take off, and connected devices will open up a whole host of possibilities for IoT.

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