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NBM
NBM
2/8/2017 1:59:49 PM
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That is amazing!  I would love to have some of that tech in our Fort Worth limousines!

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/10/2017 2:09:45 PM
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Re: no specific date for autonomous cars..
The paranoia over fingerprint scanners to unlock smartphones seems somewhat legitimate in that we're handing over biometric info that we can't change to all sorts of companies-- without knowing the ramifications. Unluckily for me, Apple fingerprint scanners never seem to work that well for my fingers for some reason, and thankfully, Apple has NOT removed the ability to use a passcode.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/10/2017 10:49:36 AM
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Re: no specific date for autonomous cars..
Between "level 5" autonomous cars and Hyperloop.. definitely the autnomous cars will arrive first. But I suppose it depends on how we define these technologies that don't quite exist yet. A Hyperloop train prototype could be fully functional but not actually connect to anything and be of practical use. So a prototype of a Hyperloop train could exist, but I wouldn't say that the technology was ready until it was put into use as a passenger train.

Elon Musk also publicly states that Tesla cars are going to be autonomous in a few years, but he hasn't started a separate Hyperloop company of his own yet. 

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afwriter
afwriter
1/7/2017 5:26:59 PM
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Re: no specific date for autonomous cars..
@mhhf1ve, purely spulative, which do you think becomes a reality first, Level 5 autonomus cars or Elon Musk's Hyper Loop?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/7/2017 4:57:58 AM
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Re: no specific date for autonomous cars..
I think level 5 autonomous cars are actually further into the future than Tesla would have you believe. Toyota seems to be a bit more practical with its autonomous functionality projects for cars. Toyota has publicly stated that autonomous cars are nowhere near reliable enough yet and won't be for the foreseeable future. But as for the question of human freedom being sapped by autonomous cars.. I think aging drivers on the verge of losing their mobility and driver's licenses would disagree with your rant.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/7/2017 4:52:05 AM
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Re: no specific date for autonomous cars..
I'll just point out that Apple never forces users to use the fingerprint scanner on the iPhone or iPad or now the MacBooks. It's a "convenience" that any user can choose to ignore. Unlike.. say the lack of a cancel option for upgrading to Win10....

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j0nnyf1v3
j0nnyf1v3
1/6/2017 12:11:03 PM
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Re: no specific date for autonomous cars..
I will be "that guy" on this one....

I am all for things being made easier in every-day life... I am not, however, alright with the clever ways and social engineering that goes into these new technologies that turn out to be devices that break through the privacy barriers commonly used by most citizens throughout the everyday ZOC - Zone of control. Like how, thanks to whistleblower troves of treasure, I put together a direct correlation between the times that Apple started working with a certain alphabet group(not Google, which makes you ponder on their choice of new business branch name....) that has come under CONSTANT scrutiny over the past few years due to certain documents being leaked.... you get it? kthx... Well.. Just as ol Alphabet Boys and SJ team up.... Apple no longer provides removable batteries in ANY of their products, start up a massive marketing Avalanche, and come out with some magical mystery device that takes the world, and it's privacy(now there, lack of) by a whirlwind... Before people knew it, they were being tracked every second of every day of every week of..... yea.....

What I am getting at is... when will it be enough?

When will humanity just totally stop quantifying what IS and ISN'T a PRIVLEGE and honestly, a blessing - such as the ability to drive, navigate, think, eat..live.. And at what cost is humanity willing to pay for the ever-present red "Easy Button" to press whenever they so choose?

Wait... They will have some machine to press the button for them... 

Anyways.. Look at the CrApple Tracking Devices.. not only can you never turn ANY of their products off(who knows how big the reserve cells hold re:power when "dead"). We give up ALL rights to privacy just so we don't take a wrong turn or can check out what Becky in Tallahassee ate for fu*%ing dinner... 0.o Then came the good ol fingerprint scanner.. YESSSSSS said the stoners and drunks whom always had to reset to use their phones again! BUUUUTTTTT... After the media firestorm on "Fingerprint Scanners" and unlocking everything and it's supposed security... They forgot to mention that you forgo your 5th amendment right protecting one against self incrimination by utilizing a fingerprint lock as it takes no "cognitive function" to get from a suspect, so said the federal courts anyways... ya know... them.... The list goes on, when you slide aside all bias and just break down information available to its core. For this being such an "ITTT" society, why the hell are people not applying that to the technology they so choose to let engrace their lives?

Settling onto the topic of the OP.. Cars.. Again, playing devils advocate and looking at the side less publicly viewed... What to do with all of the extra people? In the US alone, close to half a million people in 6 years. That is one country... There are a lot.. The world and her resources are stretched thin as it is.. People to this day are not eating, drinking water.. And we propose to implement technology that, in essence, will make that much WORSE?! And just kissing that rabbit hole, I am moving away from it and to my next point...

Our rights to control our lives.

Yes, driving can at times be a burdon. It can suck. But at it's core(see above mention), it is us controlling our direction in life, and holding in our hands the lives and trust of the people that are passengers. Driving is focusing and almost a trance-inducing activity that can calm and sooth.. The closest thing to ZEN some of us will ever obtain... And driving guarantees you know where you are going. Take that away and..... What is the situation then? A bunch of loud, obnoxious idiots oblivious to their surroundings going from point A to wherever the digital point B ACTUALLY is... 

 So..Take your time "Autonomous Cars".... I am just fine with the current state of things! I like being human!

*drops mike*

 

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/5/2017 2:58:25 PM
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no specific date for autonomous cars..
Aww. But I guess that no one has actually solved the problem of liability or actually getting software to work safely with some confidence.

Level 5 autonomous cars may not ever work under *all* conditions -- so does that mean "level5" autonomy is unattainable? Government regulations still need to be written, too....

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