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vnewman
vnewman
12/7/2016 3:36:31 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
@Joe - I vaguely recall the Carrier Wifi situation and did not realize it played out the way it did. I can appreciate how the concept is inherently flawed. However if there is no infrastructure or logistics involved and there is only "advising" - I would think think that most small businesses have a lowest common denominator the consultants could address on a generalist level.

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Michelle G
Michelle G
12/4/2016 5:12:29 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
@VN I bet they could do better and just create a tier for small business. It seems like they could just rework from the enterprise model.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/30/2016 8:34:39 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
You can be a small business and still be an "enterprise" (hence the term "SME").

That said, VZ clearly has a very particular demographic of small businesses in mind here -- and not just ALL (or even most) small businesses.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/30/2016 8:33:18 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
@vnewman:

>it seems the "fast track" services is merely for the "advisory" work the Verizon consultants would be providing.  Then you add in the actual technology and vendor costs on top of that.  Ouch.

I believe that "Advisory" is synonymous with "Upselling" in this context.  ;)

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/30/2016 8:32:10 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
> I wonder if Verizon would be willing to let a group of small businesses "pool" their resources together somehow to offset the costs...almost like a timeshare?

Sounds like you're talking about Carrier Wi-Fi, no?

In any case, the concept picked up some steam two years ago until the customers realized what a terrible idea that would be for them.  Certainly if there could be mutual agreements and arrangements worked out between constantly communicating parties, it might be feasible.  But the idea of having one's connectivity unilaterally co-opted in the way that the network providers were talking about in 2014 did not impress -- and the tech press quickly called shenanigans on that notion.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/30/2016 8:29:49 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
> Are you not going to be inundated with follow up phone calls etc. from Verizon trying to sell you their network services?

Indeed, ever since I began corresponding with members of Verizon's press team, I somehow got myself on the Verizon Wireless spam email list.

So, yeah, I tend to agree with your point here.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
11/30/2016 8:28:07 PM
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Pairing
This seems like it will make a nice, complementary pairing to counter AT&T's satellite partnership.  Wi-Fi is ever important for IoT -- particularly in parts of the world where 3G/4G/5G/XG connectivity is hampered for enterprise operations (oil and gas comes to mind).

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ms.akkineni
ms.akkineni
11/30/2016 6:49:39 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
I am little lost as well with lack of insight for $15 K. Any additional details are much appreciated.

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vnewman
vnewman
11/30/2016 6:05:01 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
"Businesses do not have to purchase Verizon network services to sign up for IoT Fast Track services."

I'm sorry, but I'm really at a loss as to why you would pay $15k for Verizon consultants but then not buy Verizon services?  Is it me?  Am I missing something?  Are you not going to be inundated with follow up phone calls etc. from Verizon trying to sell you their network services?  I mean why make that initial investment?

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vnewman
vnewman
11/30/2016 5:34:07 PM
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Re: Small Businesses Left Out
Plus - the $15k doesn't appear to buy you any of that - it seems the "fast track" services is merely for the "advisory" work the Verizon consultants would be providing.  Then you add in the actual technology and vendor costs on top of that.  Ouch.

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